Shadow Work: Understand your relationship with Money | Robert Augustus Masters

Cleona Lira
17 min readDec 22, 2022

Robert Augustus Masters, Ph.D., is an integral psychotherapist, relationship expert, and spiritual teacher whose work blends the psychological and physical with the spiritual. Emphasizing embodiment, emotional literacy, and the development of relational maturity.

The interview revolves around how our relationship with money affects our attitude towards it. Robert and his wife also conduct group workshops for men and women, on how to deal with shadows and how facing them changes our relationship with money.

To know more, watch the interview. The transcript is provided below if you prefer reading.

Cleona: Hi Robert. It’s lovely to see you again.

Robert: Yeah. You too.

Cleona: I spent some time with you in the women’s group doing some shadow work. I want to introduce you to my audience. My audience who watch my little Conscious Money YouTube channel.

You are an integral psychotherapist. You’ve written 13 books. You are quite a big deal, and you’ve said yes to me interviewing you. So, I’m truly grateful. I wanted to start off by asking you, have you, in your shadow work, identified how money shows up in people’s stuff?

Robert: It shows up in many ways. I mean, it shows up around emotions like fear, shame, and aggression. it’s like to me money itself is neutral but what we do with it is not

necessarily neutral, there’s so much we can do with it. How much do we have? We can take a quantitative approach, which many people do, was enough.

My approach is more qualitative. I’m looking at the quality of it. I could like, for example, be doing poorly financially and being happy. I could be doing well, great financially and be miserable. I’ve seen many wealthy people be miserable. There are more people who are much worse off, handling it better. So, there’s so much to be said about how we relate to it. My whole focus is the relationship to it. Not just the nuts and bolts and the amount. What does it mean to you? What is enough? It’s a good question. What is enough?

Cleona Lira

Passionate about investments, financial literacy, NVC. Blogs mainly about a conscious relationship with money at Loves chai & books